He was creating the problem for us. She experienced that same hesitation when deciding to rejoin the DHS under the Trump administration. Elizabeth Neumann. And not every white supremacist holds to this. We work with global brands, governments, NGOs and tech companies big and small to deliver evidence-based solutions at scale. GROSS: Let me reintroduce you here. It's like being in the foxhole together in war. I have - I still have very - I'm very concerned and very - I think there are a lot of outstanding questions about why it took so long for the National Guard to respond. ASMS Asilomar 2019 Travel Award NEUMANN: This was shortly after the attacks in El Paso. We had five during my tenure there. Shes joined a coalition of more than 70 other former national security officials who served under Republican presidents and are now pledging support to Biden. Elizabeth Neumann, welcome to FRESH AIR. And unfortunately, yes, it was viewed as a success for white supremacists, for anti-government extremists and, quite frankly, probably, many of our enemies overseas. And would there be any way of doing it? We care for and support our colleagues, and cultivate a safe working environment for all. So seeing that the president lied to his followers for weeks and that by doing so deceived people to the point of believing that it was well within their rights and in some cases their duty to violently attempt to overthrow the election, we really need the truth to come out so that we can start to rebuild and lift that deceit from those that are still believing in it. So in a way, yes, you have, in Trump, kind of radicalized some portion of his followers, not all. GROSS: When you're talking about Christchurch, you're talking about the massacre at a mosque in New Zealand. She's worked in Homeland Security ever since 9/11. They are just about the right to bear arms and be able to exercise protection for their neighborhood through a militia. So on the inside, we were not getting a good understanding of the trend lines, of the fact that hate crimes had increased, the fact that the president's rhetoric was increasingly being tied to hate crimes in court documents. And if we follow what Jesus taught us, it is much more about loving one another, serving one another, as opposed to being obsessed with having power and getting things your own way. Elizabeth Neumann Company, LLC. And then Charlottesville happened. It bonds you in a way that just meeting on the street would not bond you. And - because you've written about how he stood in the way of the department talking about the threat of domestic terrorism. You also see that the melding between the white supremacist groups and the anti-government extremist groups, there tends to be a lot of overlap there. We are ambitious and daring about our ability to impact global problems with innovative solutions, and positive about peoples ability to change. A lock So right now, I know that I'm searching for how to best communicate and encourage that change. And it's so exhausting. Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. Lives in Berlin, Germany. And they felt like it was time for revolution, time to go back to the basics of - you heard them screaming 1776 through the hallways. The Neumann lab joined the Chemistry Department at UC Davis in the summer of 2022 and focuses on understanding the molecular and cellular architecture behind neurological diseases. They are just people that are passionate about Donald Trump. Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 31, 2020. Perry, W. J.; Patterson, N. H.; Prentice, B. M.; Spraggins, J. M.; Djambazova, K. V.; Rivera, E. S.; Migas, L. G.; Ta, K.; Zhang, R.; Shin, M.; Rooney, R. T.; Ellis, J. F.; Triplett, A. E.; Rubakhin, S. S.; Sweedler, J. V. Lipid analysis of thirty-thousand individual brain cells using high-resolution mass spectrometry., ; Sanghamitra, D.; Comi, T. J.; Rubakhin, S. S.; Gillette, M. U.; Bhargava, R.; Sweedler, J. V. Single cell MALDI mass spectrometry hyphenated to stimulated Raman scattering microscopy for enhanced chemical coverage., ; Do, T. D.; Comi, T. J.; Sweedler, J. V. Exploring the Fundamental Structures of Life: Nontargeted, Chemical Analysis of Single Cells and Subcellular Structures., ; Comi, T. J.; Rubakhin, S. S.; Sweedler, J. V. Single Cell MALDI-MS supervised by immunocytochemical classification., ; Comi, T. J.; Spegazzini, N.; Mitchell, J. W.; Rubakhin, S. S.; Bhargava, R.; Gillette, M. U.; Sweedler, J. V. Multimodal Chemical Analysis of the Brain by High Resolution Mass Spectrometry and Infrared Spectroscopic Imaging.. Turns out that's not the case. Part of my own process of coming to grips with the fact that I could not vote for him is realizing how dangerous his rhetoric is and his unwillingness to change, she said. If you're in a very extreme anti-government militia type, you think that the U.S. government has basically violated its constitutional duties and needs to be scrapped and started over. We have to recognize that it was created through political and cultural means, and we need politics and culture to help fix it. And it was kind of left at that. In an interview with NPR's Steve Inskeep, she offers a candid. Elizabeth Neumann is the Assistant Secretary for Threat Prevention and Security Policy at the Department of Homeland Security, responsible for developing and coordinating policy on issues such as countering transnational criminal organizations, hostile nation-states, human traffickers, and terrorists; using biometrics, identity management, screening, and vetting to prevent terrorist travel; and sharing information with international partners. GROSS: So some of the people who stormed the Capitol were members of the Oath Keepers or the Three Percenters which recruit from the military and from the police. Free Tools; . And so, again, it's - something about January 6 definitely shifted the makeup and the threat that we were facing. I really don't want that to be the answer. The Secret Services research, the FBIs research, one of the commonalities in an attacker is that they usually had a series of stressors in their life, so theyve lost a job, theyve lost a loved one, theyve had a bad breakup or something significant in their life changed, she explained. We provide autonomy and opportunity to our team as a pathway to personal growth and collective excellence. Pope, W. H.; Bowman, C. A.; Russell, D. A.; Jacobs-Sera, D.; Asai, D. J.; Cresawn, S. G.; Jacobs, W. R. Jr.; Hendrix, R. W.; Lawrence, J. G.; Hatfull, G. F.; Science Education Alliance Phage Hunters Advancing Genomics and Evolutionary Science; General Chemistry and Placement Requirements, Francesca Miller Undergraduate Research Award, R.B. The first and primary job of a president, the first and primary job of the federal government, is to protect us., How we decide to vote is often complex. She sees a connection between many people on the far right and Christian nationalism, which teaches that America is not only a Christian nation, it's God's chosen nation. At the beginning there was a time period where the president was steerable. But what do you see for yourself in the future? But I am aware that several of my secretaries did. Our experience working with governments, tech companies and communities revealed a major gap in the approach to this deadly problem. Elizabeth Neumann in Pennsylvania. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. It's rather stunning, actually, the more the data comes out about who actually crossed the threshold into the Capitol. They saw it as a success in that we have such societal discord that we can't seem to find, even post-January 6, the ability to come together on a basic thing like a commission to study domestic terrorism in our country and what happened on January 6. Neumann explained to NPRs Inskeep that Trumps signature style is chaos itself, which has trickled down through all other levels of government. And it can give this false sense that they don't have their act together, they're not actually that dangerous because they're always fighting with one another. Moonshot has since expanded the scope of online threats and harms that we tackle. This directory covers Elizabeth Neumann. Prior to CBIZ, Ms. Newman served as the President and CEO of The . We need people like that to come out and say the election wasn't stolen. The Institute is a 501(c)3 organization; all donations are tax-deductible. We're there to protect our community. So the - (laughter) one of the hard things in studying extremism, especially today, is that increasingly, we have these groups kind of morphing. Does all of that reach to the president? Djambazova, K. V.; Klein, D. R.; Migas, L. G.; ; Migas, L. G.; Allen, J. L.; Van de Plas, R.; Caprioli, R. M.; Spraggins, J. M. Spatial Metabolomics of the Human Kidney using MALDI Trapped Ion Mobility Imaging Mass Spectrometry.. Read our latest data-driven analyses on online harms at Medium. So in that sense, the insurrection was a failure. A .gov website belongs to an official government organization in the United States. He was, as you have shared, pouring fuel on the fire of it. Previously, she worked with the White House Homeland Security Council and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, 1111 19th Street NW - Suite 500 Elizabeth Neumann has more than 20 years' experience in homeland security, dating back to when she served on George W. Bush's Homeland Security Council. During your years working in Homeland Security, was there a turning point for you when you realized that these far-right extremist groups, including white supremacist groups, including groups that want to create a civil war, that they were more than just kind of background fringe, that they posed a serious threat to our national security? These are people that do brief him directly. Neumann's now-archived bio on the Department of Homeland Security website details at length her "extensive . She's now co-director of the Republican Accountability Project, which was founded to push back against the lies and conspiracy theories about voter fraud and claims that the 2020 election was rigged, and to hold accountable elected leaders who have supported those claims and tried to overturn a legitimate election. She also worked as a contractor helping businesses with cyber security and risk assessments, and with DHS in developing threat assessments and in restructuring and opening regional field offices. The Washington Institute seeks to advance a balanced and realistic understanding of American interests in the Middle East and to promote the policies that secure them. Over the past 15 years, she has created and implemented multiple government-wide counterterrorism policies and reforms. And we were predominantly worried about the white supremacist groups because historically they have been the most lethal in their violence. Those were words straight out of Donald Trump's campaign. And some of the people I'm referring to here were former members of the military or the police. They had been used on thousands of Facebook campaign ads just that year alone. NEUMANN: So that particular strain is going to be in your white supremacist group, so neo-Nazis and other groups that borrow their mythology largely from Germany and Nordic countries. And many of those children have never been reunited with their parents because no one can find their parents. He cares about winning. June 25, 2021. I was really concerned for our country., Neumann said seeing John Kellys confirmation hearing was reassuring, because she views Kelly as a man of experience and integrity., If I could work for (Kelly), it would be worth the effort to endure the chaos that is Trump world, she told Sykes. Some of the Q followers were disillusioned that the prophecy about Trump remaining president didn't come true. Neumann and her colleagues at the DHS got to work creating the Department of Homeland Security Strategic Framework for Countering Terrorism and Targeted Violence, which was released in September 2019. We remember the people behind the data points. Fax: 202-223-5364. NEUMANN: Definitely did. When Neumann joined Trumps Department of Homeland Security in 2017, it wasnt her first time on the national security scene she was part of the inaugural staff of the Homeland Security Council, which was created in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. By Elizabeth Neumann. Contact Us Elizabeth Neumann Company Elizabeth Neumann Company Elizabeth Neumann Company Elizabeth Neumann Company Home About Us Meeting Planning Business Travel Virtual Holiday Events Contact Us Hello About Us There's much to see here. Collective[i] Forecast featuring Elizabeth Neumann will take place today, Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 5:15 P.M. EST and will explore the topic "Nation on alert: America's inauguration and the . But I suspect we're likely to see some connection points between those groups that I just referenced - the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers. I attempted to try to - the best I could, are you - why this was the wrong approach. Neumann said the real threats come from right-wing movements that co-opt conservative talking points to stoke fear. What you also see, though, is there's this other movement called the boogaloo boys. GROSS: So, you know, we've talked about domestic terrorism. They made it clear that the work that they were doing, especially after El Paso, was about violence prevention. She says the Trump administration ignored the threat and fanned the flames of violent domestic extremism. Netta, Rachel - Neureker, Niharika > Neumann, Debby - Neumann, Ginny > Neumann, Elixa - Neumann, Elizabeth > Neumann, Elizabeth. Moonshot is a proud member of the Online Safety Tech Association. We commit to our own ongoing education. They shared a common purpose clearly and showing up on January six. So that networking effect can be very powerful. National Science Foundation-Graduate Research Fellowship , Rivera, E. S., Patterson, N. H., Allen, J. L., Brewer, M.., deCaestecker, M. P., Fogo, A. G., Caprioli, R. M., Spraggins, J. M. Highly Multiplexed Immunofluorescence of the Human Kidney using Co-Detection by Indexing (CODEX).. But that led to violence on January 6. We empathise with victims of online harms as well as those at risk of perpetrating them. As we navigate fast-changing trends and increasingly complex environments, we stay true to our mission: one based on creativity, integrity, and hope. One of his first actions was the Muslim travel ban. He demonized Mexicans. Moonshots work is rooted in ethics, empathy and human rights. The increasing threat of domestic terrorism from right-wing extremists was something my guest, Elizabeth Neumann, warned the Trump White House about when she served as the assistant secretary of homeland security for counterterrorism and threat reduction in the Trump administration. The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. That backstabbing, the folks that were coming in were only about themselves, they didnt have any experience in the homeland security space. She was part of a team of officials that helped advance several anti-terrorism measures. I still don't know that we know the full story about him in Russia. But it does sound like from some of the stories that we're hearing from both former prosecutors as well as people that know this area of the law, there's at least a case to be made about incitement to violence or about obstructing the peaceful transfer of power. The first was in August of 2017 when we had Charlottesville, the protests that turned violent. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. So the El Paso moment was the moment when he could have said, oh, my goodness, my words ended up in a terrorist manifesto. Elizabeth Neumann resigned from the Department of Homeland Security in 2020. But going back 40, 50 years to the '80s when the white supremacist movement kind of consolidated and came to the conclusion that they were no longer going to be able to establish or achieve their aims through the government, they realized that they needed to make the government their enemy. Neumann said she took on the role with low expectations, and she still found that the experience fell short. So if you want to participate in a Second Amendment-protected militia, you go join the National Guard. So, take your time, look around, and learn all there is to know about us. My career started in the Bush administration, and I was initially focused on domestic policies, and then of course 9/11 happened and the agenda completely changed, Neumann told host Charlie Sykes during a September 4 episode of The Bulwark Podcast. As a social impact business, we re-invest in research and development to further our mission, building evidence for new methodologies and regularly pushing the boundaries of our tech. " She is married and has two children.. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. You served in Homeland Security in the George W. Bush administration and in the Trump administration.